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Two confessions on Palestine and Israel

May 5, 2007 3 Comments 

The perpetually contested issue of Israel and Palestine was the central theme of an illuminating debate recently held at the University of Maastricht. Organized by Maastricht Debates and moderated by Wilfried Ruetten, director of the European Journalism Centre, the event allowed a glimpse into the hearts and minds of a Palestinian, Saman Khoury, and an Israeli, Avi Primor, who appeared as two very conscientious individuals seeking not to evangelize their respective causes but to find new hope through Europe’s next generation.

Rear of Palestinian taxi in Nablus, photograph: Justin McIntosh, WikimediaWhen contemplating a debate on the conflict between Israel and Palestine two assumptions usually come to mind: the first one is that the speeches will be inflammatory on both sides and the second is that at the end the audience will realize yet again that the conflict will never be truly resolved and that the debate was simply another grim reminder of that fact.

For the event entitled: “Israel and Palestine: two confessions”, the organizers of Maastricht Debates had invited two distinguished guest speakers: Avi Primor, the former Israeli ambassador to Germany, and Saman Khoury, the Deputy chairperson of the Palestinian Peace and Democracy Forum in East Jerusalem.

Hebron, photograph: WikimediaSince the two men represented opposite sides, one could have expected a terse exchange, with the Israeli speaker describing how his countrymen are being victimized by a violent terrorist network whose goal is to remove them from their “chosen land,” and the Palestinian view that Palestine is being consistently ignored by both the Israelis and the West while undergoing brutal persecution at Israeli hands..

“Confess your sins”
But such a confrontation, which “simply reiterates deadlocked positions”, was precisely what the organizers of the debate wished to avoid. Instead the speakers were asked to “make a critical assessment of their own side”. Referring to the auditorium where the debate was taking place, Wilfried Ruetten, director of the European Journalism Centre and moderator of the debate, invited the two men seated next to him to “confess their sins in this beautifully renovated church.”

Auditorium, University of Maastricht, photograph: Thibault Griez

Given this context, the audience was hoping for something more: would a Palestinian and an Israeli maybe, just maybe, attempt to propose a mutually beneficial solution to their centuries-long territorial dispute?

Speaking in turns, both Primor and Khoury said they believed proactive change and reconciliation was possible between Palestinians and Israelis. At the same time they acknowledged that both Israelis and Palestinians have made some less than optimal choices in admitting the fact that the establishment of a single state, either Israeli or Palestinian, will only prolong the bloodshed, not bring about its cessation. “The Palestinians have never missed a chance to miss a chance, and the Israelis will always take the right decision… after they’ve tried everything else,” said Primor, quoting a sarcastic joke often heard in Israel.

Bethlehem Road, photograph: WikimediaBoth speakers adhered fairly well to the confessional format of the debate, and their candor allowed the audience to grasp some of the difficult realities that are implicit to the conflict: the Palestinian failure to enact self-determination and the relative impunity with which the Israelis can monopolize every type of resource available within Israel’s territorial boundaries, largely thanks to their strong powerbase in the United States.

“The time is ripe”
Avi Primor, Maastricht Debates, photograph: Thibault GriezPrimor and Khoury pleaded for two central strategies: first, the establishment of two separate sovereign states and second, the need to increase external pressure. They see external pressure, in the form of diplomatic moderation, as the only method to convince their countrymen that the end of their turf war will be mutually beneficial. “The time is ripe for a resolution of the conflict,” said Avi Primor, “because both parties now agree to the way out.” “But,” he added, “only a multilateral push in the right direction will help us get there.”

The speakers however acknowledged past failures in this endeavor, referring mainly to the Oslo Accords signed in 1993 and describing them as a fiasco that all future legislation must avoid repeating.

Primor and Khoury shared the opinion that only multilateral negotiations would provide a solution. But while the United States, Saudi Arabia, and Europe were mentioned as essential partners in solving the conflict, the UN, other NGOs and IGOs were simply disregarded. Whether this was due to the speakers’ scepticism towards these organizations, or just to a lack of time, remained unclear.

Palestinian Prime Minister of Hamas not welcome in the NetherlandsAnother aspect perhaps lacking from the debate was an in-depth discussion of one of the most controversial aspects currently dividing the world view of Palestine, namely the fact that the present Palestinian executive is jointly led by Hamas, a recognized terrorist organization by many countries, most notably by the United States but also by the Netherlands who recently refused to allow the Palestinian prime minister Ismail Haniyeh to visit because of his affiliation to Hamas.

In their speeches, Saman Khoury and Avi Primor overall did not pose any resistance towards the idea of talking with Hamas. Does this speak of the transience of government, and its irrelevance in the grand scheme of Israel and Palestine’s history? This is possible, but it seemed more likely that the subject of Hamas was simply a proverbial “kettle of worms” that the speakers did not wish to touch on for their own sake.

Europe as mediator
Saman Khoury, Maastricht Debates, photograph: Thibault GriezAfter both speakers had concluded their “confessions”, there was room for questions from the audience, all of which were very incisive and originated from a very diverse assortment of experiences. One of the four questions that were asked came from a man who had spent some time in Israel and witnessed first hand how difficult it is for Palestinians “to go to the bank”: instead of walking up into an institutional establishment as we are used to taking for granted here, the only effective method for Palestinians to enact international commerce is to smuggle in leather sacks full of currency. “Does this mean that the Palestinians are gaining control one leather sack at a time?” the man asked. “No,” replied Saman Khoury, “all the leather sacks in the world will not bring true change.” “Only self-determination and a strong external moderator will help us achieve peace,” he added.

Countries in the Mediterranean regionBoth speakers stressed the role that Europe, whose future was represented by the University student population in the audience, could play in becoming the catalytic force that would bring a solution to the Middle-eastern conflict.

In Avi Primor’s opinion, Europe is especially well placed to act as a powerful mediator, because it carries within its own history eerie similarities to the Israeli-Palestinian divisions. But the question is: does Europe want to be a diplomatic actor?

Maastricht Debates, photograph: Thibault GriezPrimor regretted that European countries are seemingly unwilling to act in a way that might place them at odds with allies on which they depend for economic survival. But he pointed out, and Khoury agreed with him, that while this cautious attitude may not be prejudicial in the short term, the mere geographical proximity of the conflict might well very soon start burning Europe’s cuticles.

Judging by the loud applause at the end of the debate, the educated and experienced words uttered that evening were well received by the packed audience. Regardless of the discursive format that the debate took, – as “agreement is easy with Saman,” (Avi Primor) – , the speakers’ informal tone and open confessions proved effective. Their accounts of more failures than successes in the search for peace in their region were perceived, not as a statement of hopelessness, but on the contrary, as an invitation for concrete action.

By Eliot Rolen and Louisa Kistemaker

Eliot Rolen (US) and Louisa Kistemaker (Germany) are currently studying at University College Maastricht. They are both correspondents for Informeel, within the newly launched UM Student Media initiative.

More photographs of the debate, by Thibault Griez

Speakers at Maastricht Debates, photograph: Thibault Griez

Audience, Maastricht Debates, photograph: Thibault Griez

Avi Primor and Saman Khoury, Maastricht Debates, photograph: Thibault Griez

Maastricht Debates, photograph: Thibault Griez

Question time, Maastricht Debates, photograph: Thibault Griez

Photographs by Thibault Griez

Thibault Griez was born in France but raised in Belgium. He decided to attend the University of Maastricht a couple of years ago because of its innovative teaching system. Following a somewhat unusual academic background (life science, Knowledge Engineering followed by a masterclass in digital photography), he is now studying Arts & Culture to pursue a carrier in photojournalism. Thibault also contributes to UM Student Media.

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3 Responses to “Two confessions on Palestine and Israel”

  1. H.Reuvers on May 6th, 2007 5:55 am

    UNESCO should engage in (re-)educating both Israeli and Palestinian people, especially the kids.

  2. Sueli Brodin on May 6th, 2007 1:06 pm

    Well, the thing is that Saman Khoury said a few times during the debate: “We need external pressure, but we don’t need teachers.”

    But he was rather vague about what type of external pressure he had in mind.

    As the review mentions, the Netherlands has recently denied a visa to the Palestinian Prime Minister and Hamas member Mr Haniyeh who wanted to attend a conference for Palestinians in Rotterdam. (But Mr Haniyeh ended up giving his speech anyway through satellite transmission). And on Friday a Palestinian minister, also a member of Hamas, was barred from getting off a plane in Brussels, after Dutch authorities canceled his visa to attend the same conference. (See the article on the International Herald Tribune here.)

    It would have been interesting to know the speakers’ view on the Dutch standpoint and whether this is an example of the type of external pressure they are suggesting. (But there was no time left at the end of the debate for a second round of questions from the audience…)

    During my younger years I spent some time in Israel and was often told by Israelis: “You people in Europe and in the rest of the world cannot understand how things work in the Middle East”. They would then tell me the famous scorpion joke, to illustrate how illogical and absurd situations can be. (If you’re not familiar with this joke, you will easily find it on the Internet, see for example the end of this article.)

    Once I talked with an Israeli man who was working for an international company here in Maastricht. I asked him if it was easy for him to keep in touch with his country, if he could find Israeli music or Israeli food here… but he quickly interrumpted me with a question: “Listen, what makes you think that I miss Israel? You know, it’s actually good to be away.”

    Food for thought…

  3. Herman on May 6th, 2007 11:52 pm

    Contrary to what the writers claim, Avi Primor was quite outspoken about the issue of talking to Hamas. He referred to the evacuation of the Gaza-strip by the Israeli army in 2005, ordered by the then prime-minister Ariel Sharon. As a retreating army is vulnerable to attacks from the enemy, Sharon secretly negiotiated a deal with Hamas not to attack the settlements that were being dismantled, nor the Israeli army carrying out the evacuation. What was in it for the Hamas he did not reveal, but talking to Hamas is essential to end the conflict according to Primor.

    Another interesting issue addressed during the debate, which is missing from this review, is the fact that Saudi-Arabia recently has expressed the will to normalise relations with Israel and has proposed a peace-plan which is being supported by many Arab countries. It is not because the Arabs have fallen in love with Israel, says Primor, but it is a strategic reaction towards the ever growing influence in the region of Iran. Many of the Arab oilfields are located in areas inhabited by Shiites (the same form of Islam confessed by the majority of the Iranians) and the Arab leaders are suspicious of the threat this could represent if Iran ever sets its eyes on these oilfields. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a rather minor issue compared to the interests at stake, but it is used by Iran as a tool to rally muslims in the region, according to Primor. Solving the conflict would take away this tool and allow the Arab leaders to focus on the real issue – control of the oil.

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